insomniar asked:

By supporting lgbt, am I a bad christian? I'm new in my walk, but strong with my support.


I answered a question on whether it is right or not for a Christian to be supporting the LGBT community. Here is the link for that:

In short, I wouldn’t say that you are a bad person if you support LGBT.. but I also know that as you grow closer to the Lord, you will start to desire the things that he desires. One of my favorite lines in a song is “break my heart for what breaks Yours.” In that, I try to follow after Jesus and support the things that he would support. Supporting and loving are two different things. I can love someone who is LGBT but I will also not support it because I want to follow after God’s commandments first and foremost. I have friends who are gay and we get along fine. They know that I don’t support it because of my beliefs, but we are still friends. I do not believe in showing hatred towards those who are in the LGBT community, but I also do not believe Christians should not support sin. Hope that answers your question. If you have other questions about homosexuality, I have a whole topics section devoted to it. Check it out!

When a man is getting better he understands more and more clearly the evil that is still left in him. When a man is getting worse he understands his own badness less and less. A moderately bad man knows he is not very good: a thoroughly bad man thinks he is all right. This is common sense, really. You understand sleep when you are awake, not while you are sleeping. You can see mistakes in arithmetic when your mind is working properly: while you are making them you cannot see them. You can understand the nature of drunkenness when you are sober, not when you are drunk. Good people know about both good and evil: bad people do not know about either.

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity  (via awelltraveledwoman)


That we should all oppose hatred, violence, and intolerance, 11:30, 11:43, is the one point where Roger Ross Williams, producer of ‘God Loves Uganda’, and Christianity agree.   Authentic Christians have learned from Christ to love all people, even those who would do violence to the sanctity of human sexuality and blaspheme the holy intent of its Designer, which may be why Mr. Williams is emboldened to reform Christianity and not Islam.  It is unfortunate that their are some abusers perverting the gospel of Christ in Uganda, as if Sharia Law has found its way into Christendom.

At 12:15, however hatred and intolerance of Mr. Williams are revealed.  Here Christianity is labeled “a dangerous ideology”  that must be reformed or expunged because it teaches that ”gays and lesbians, transgenders and bisexuals do not have a place in the kingdom of God”, a kingdom which, says St. Paul, “is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.”  Rom. 14:17   

The exclusion, I think, is not one of prohibition, but incapability.  One can’t be righteous, and practice sexual immorality.  One can’t be perverted and have peace.  And the statistics show that homosexuals are among society’s most joyless and depressed individuals, and the depression, say most psychiatrists, is not due to social stigmatization. 

I do not have a place in Cambridge University’s Athletic Hall of Fame, or on Yale University’s Academic Honors list, or on the League of Women Voters, or among the mentally ill, but that does not mean I am hated for who I am, or that their rules of inclusion are a dangerous ideology.  This teaching on who are the recipients and heirs of the kingdom of God is not of our own making. It comes to us from God Himself, through all the holy Apostles, and particularly St. Paul, who has won more converts to Christ than any other man in history.  

The great Apostle Paul, who, for the sake of the gospel, had “worked much harder, had been in prison more frequently, had been flogged more severely, and exposed to death again and again;  Had toiled more diligently, and often gone without sleep; had been cold and naked, had known hunger and thirst, and had often gone without food; had received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one for his testimony of the truth concerning Jesus;  had three times been beaten with rods, once stoned, three times shipwrecked, and had spent a night and a day in the open sea;  who, because of his faithfulness to the Gospel of Christ, had been in danger from his fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles, and in danger from false believers… (See 2 Cor. 11)

As I consider the mission and methods of men like Roger Ross Williams, I wonder if the Church isn’t in the same danger today.  For St. Paul, of special election to the Gentiles, born of the Spirit out of due season, besides all else, faced daily the pressure of his concern for the particular vulnerability of the churches, that they should not be led astray, but abide in truth.  2 Cor. 11:28   

We are still wise to heed the words of St. Paul:

“…Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who have sex with men…  will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor. 6:9, 10

Here are some interesting facts I learned from this short video:

 Bible reading is a joke. 16:30   

 Watching gay porn is okay and any attempt of an addict to break free from it is a joke. 17:02

Giving God the finger is a common practice in Uganda and is no joke.  4:45,  5:56

 Uganda is the third highest consumer of gay porn in the world, but director Roger Ross Williams says that the “fundamentalist evangelicals” who oppose it “are obsessed with sex”.  16:50; 17:27   

 80% of Ugandans now have aids.  And the narrator asserts that the Church’s effort to wipe out sexual immorality “is having a devastating effect” there.  5:07   

At 25:00 we learn the impetus for Mr. Williams documentary.  He grew up singing in a gospel choir, but he was never affirmed as a gay man.  “So obviously this is something that is really important.”  Those who refused to affirm his homosexual behavior he quickly condemns as haters. 25:13

There are plenty of affirming Churches in 21st century Christendom, where men like Roger Ross Williams could feel quite at home, even if Christ is shut out.

Here’s my question for Mr. Williams.  If he can live his Christian life devoid of the influence or power of the Holy Spirit and based exclusively on the resources of his own reasoning and sexual preferences, even proselytizing, via his documentary, for the acceptance of homosexuality in a realm that has condemned the practice for 2,000 years, why can’t Church leaders in America run their evangelistic endeavors devoid of the Holy Spirit also, and based exclusively upon their own preferences, reasoning, financial resources, and limited understanding of the Scriptures, even proselytizing against homosexuality in other countries around the globe?  Its all good.  Everything’s fair.  And it all can be done without the wearisome inconvenience of concerning ourselves with the heart of God in these matters.

The documentary’s logic goes like this:  

Premise 1— Today women preach  29:40,  and we couldn’t be wrong about that, could we?   

Premise 2— In the Old Testament, the Jew had to leave the hair on the sides of his head untrimmed 29:47, which, of course, is just silly.

Premise 3— “The Bible says that slavery is okay…”  29:57  

(an equivocation fallacy I’m weary of hearing. The New Testament teaches that slave-trading is just as unlawful for those who would inherit the Kingdom of God as same-sex eroticism. And Christians must again trouble our opponents with the words of St. Paul, for Christianity is based upon his words and writings more than any other’s:

“…knowing this: that law is not laid-down for the righteous, but for the lawless and rebellious…  the sexually-immoral, homosexuals, slave-traders, liars… and if there be any other thing contrary to healthy teaching…” 1 Tim. 9,10)

The Conclusion, therefore, of their argument, unless I am mistaken, is as follows:  

“As we advance with understanding of how a human person is made, we realize that some of the judgments we have (currently, and for the last 2 millennia) are just misleading…”  30:10

The makers of  “God Loves Uganda” are now telling —not only Christendom, but every major world religion that espouses a purposeful Creator, that their newly accumulated and advanced understanding of how a human being is made (by the Divine Creator) has now enabled them to see what all the rest of us, and all who have gone before us for thousands of years, have missed:  that one man inserting his penis into the rectum of another and ejaculating into fecal matter is not a disorder, not counter-design, but healthy and good, and must not only be tolerated, but affirmed in every local Church, Synagogue, Mosque, and temple.

Nevertheless, it is not the practice of homosexuality, but the promotion of it in the Name of Christ, which is the greater sin.  For the promotion of homosexuality within Christendom is the false-gospel of the antichrist spirit of our age, and is just as “odious” —Mr. President,  0:01, as the law which makes it punishable by death.  For God’s righteous judgment is coming —not so much upon those who have perverted sex, as upon those perverters of truth who would be our leaders.

To abandon truth on this ground, and affirm men like Roger Ross Williams in their disorientation and vice,  would not be an act of love, but cowardice and betrayal.  It needs to be emphatically said that all who suffer from same-sex attraction deserve the love, prayers, compassion and help of Christians; but the makers of  “God Loves Uganda”, who are asking that Christ-followers affirm them in destructive behaviors which the New Testament forbids, are asking for more licence than a renewed mind and a good conscience can grant.

Spot on!